Why Every Brand Needs an Entity Home (And Most Are Getting It Wrong) - Jason Barnard on The James Dooley Podcast
Entity Home - The Perfect Homepage for Your Personal Brand (James Dooley Interviews Jason Barnard)
Video by: James Dooley. Host: James Dooley. Guest: Jason Barnard, Founder and CEO of Kalicube®. January 21, 2026
TL;DR: Establishing an algorithm-focused Entity Home is the absolute foundation for ensuring AI Assistive Engines and search systems accurately understand, trust, and recommend your brand. Jason Barnard, CEO of Kalicube®, joins James Dooley to explain that while traditional homepages are built to charm and sell to human users, the Entity Home (specifically your “About” page) acts as a dedicated factual launchpad for educating machines. Success requires shifting away from fragmented digital footprints to centralize your identity around an owned canonical hub, stopping bottom-of-funnel conversion leaks and building unshakeable algorithmic confidence.
Key Strategies Discussed:
- The Entity Home vs. Human Homepage: The homepage is a commercial facing asset designed to sell to and charm human audiences. In contrast, the Entity Home is dedicated to teaching machines raw facts, a structural shift that Kalicube data shows can increase human conversion rates by up to 6% as a secondary benefit.
- The Point of Reconciliation: Coined by Jason Barnard and corroborated by Google’s John Mueller, the Entity Home serves as the entity’s canonical URL. It is the primary reference hub where search engines and LLMs go to resolve fragmented data points and reconcile conflicting records across the web.
- First-Party Claims & Third-Party Corroboration: Algorithms will not accept your first-party claims at face value. Every factual statement made on your Entity Home must link directly out to authoritative third-party proof (such as government registries, Crunchbase, or media profiles), creating a loop where trusted external data validates your internal claims.
- Anatomy of the Perfect Hub: To optimize for machine readability, the Entity Home must feature the exact name of the brand or person in the H1 tag rather than generic titles like “My Story.” It should layout an upside-down chronological biography (present working backwards) and display compliance details like official tax numbers or GDPR officers to establish transparency.
- Schema Markup as a Confidence Booster: JSON-LD and Schema are not magic bullets that create understanding. As noted by Bing’s Fabrice Canel, modern LLMs reliably extract data directly from clean, well-structured Semantic HTML5; Schema simply acts as supporting evidence that pushes algorithmic confidence from a baseline of 60% up to 80%.
Why Every Brand Needs a Factual About Page (And Most Are Getting It Wrong)
Jason Barnard on The James Dooley Podcast
Every brand has a story it wants the world to understand. But the story a business tells its customers is not necessarily the information a search engine or AI system needs to identify it correctly.
That distinction sits at the heart of Jason Barnard’s advice about the About page: a dedicated, factual reference point on your own website that helps machines understand who you are, what you do, whom you serve, and why they should trust the information you provide.
In an interview with entrepreneur James Dooley on The James Dooley Podcast, Barnard, founder and CEO of Kalicube, explained why an ordinary homepage often cannot do this job alone. A homepage is generally designed to engage visitors, communicate a value proposition, and encourage action. A factual About page has a different responsibility: to establish a clear, consistent, and verifiable understanding of the person or company behind the brand.
Most businesses already have an About page. The problem, Barnard argued, is that they often write it for the wrong audience.
Your homepage sells. Your About page explains.
A conventional homepage is built around the needs of human visitors. It introduces an offer, communicates benefits, and encourages people to take the next step. Its language might be aspirational, persuasive, and emotionally engaging.
That is appropriate for a page intended to convert customers. But it does not necessarily provide the precise factual information that algorithms need to understand a brand.
As Barnard explained to Dooley, a statement such as “We help the world become a better place” may communicate a company’s mission to people. On its own, however, it does little to explain the organization’s identity, activities, or qualifications.
A page written for algorithms needs to answer more concrete questions. What is the exact name of the business or individual? What does it do? Who founded the company? Which organizations is it associated with? What experience or evidence supports its claims?
The distinction is not about abandoning persuasive communication. It is about giving factual clarity its own place within a brand’s digital presence.
Barnard’s recommendation is to treat the About page as a dedicated resource for educating machines while still making it useful and reassuring for human readers. A well-constructed page can do both.
This also explains why the page that defines a brand’s identity is not always the homepage. For an individual, the homepage may already communicate their mission and offer, leaving the About page to establish the facts. A company may benefit from a more specific structure, such as separate About pages for the organization and its key people.
The important thing is to identify the page that serves as the authoritative factual reference point for the brand.
Your About page is the point of reconciliation.
This approach addresses a fundamental challenge of digital identity: information about a brand is scattered across the web.
A person’s professional profile might appear on LinkedIn, an interview might identify them as a company founder, and a business directory might list their organization. Each source contributes information, but those records may be incomplete, inconsistent, or disconnected.
Barnard describes the About page as the central reference point that helps search engines and AI systems reconcile these different pieces of information.
During the interview, Dooley connected the idea with Google’s use of the term “point of reconciliation.” Barnard explained that the underlying idea is to establish a canonical online location where the brand’s identity and relevant facts can be clearly defined.
In this context, the About page is more than a page that tells visitors an interesting story. It establishes a reference against which other information about the brand can be interpreted.
The idea also clarifies the difference between your own About page and a profile page elsewhere. An About page can serve as the reference point because it is an owned resource where the brand explains its identity. A profile page elsewhere on the web, by contrast, can provide additional confirmation of the information presented there.
This distinction matters because brands cannot rely on a collection of disconnected profiles to communicate a coherent identity. They need a central, well-structured source that connects the information.
Claims need evidence, even when they seem obvious.
One of Barnard’s most important recommendations is that factual statements on the About page should be supported by credible external evidence.
To a business owner, saying “I am the founder and CEO of this company” may seem self-evident. But an algorithm encountering that statement still needs signals that help it establish whether the claim is reliable.
Barnard recommends linking relevant statements to corroborating sources. Depending on the claim, these might include government records, established business databases, professional profiles, media coverage, articles, or podcast interviews.
For example, if an About page states that Jason Barnard is the founder and CEO of Kalicube, the page could link to independent or authoritative sources that support that relationship.
The goal is to connect the claim on the About page with evidence elsewhere on the web.
This creates a mutually reinforcing relationship: the About page clearly states the fact, while credible external sources provide corroboration. When the information is consistent across sources, search engines and AI systems have more evidence with which to establish a coherent understanding of the brand.
The principle is straightforward: do not simply tell algorithms what you want them to know about your brand. Make it easier for them to verify the claims.
That requires more than adding a long list of links. The evidence must be relevant to the specific statement being made. A profile that confirms someone’s professional identity is useful for that purpose; an unrelated mention of the same person may not establish the claim at all.
Build the About page around the brand you are today.
A brand’s history can contain dozens of companies, collaborations, projects, and personal milestones. Not all of them deserve equal prominence on its About page.
When Dooley asked how brands should describe their relationships with other people and organizations, Barnard emphasized the importance of relevance.
He explained that he would include relationships connected to his current professional identity, such as Kalicube and previous businesses that help explain his background. He would not necessarily foreground every past creative project or personal association simply because it was part of his life.
The distinction is strategic. An About page should help algorithms understand the brand that exists today, not overwhelm them with an indiscriminate inventory of everything it has ever done.
For a business, relevant relationships might include its founder, parent organization, subsidiaries, established partners, or other organizations that clarify its position in the market. For an individual, they might include current roles, companies founded, professional affiliations, and significant achievements.
The question to ask is not simply whether a relationship is true. It is whether that relationship helps explain the brand’s identity and purpose.
This approach keeps the page focused while still providing enough context to connect the brand to the wider digital ecosystem.
An effective About page gets four things right.
Barnard identified several practical elements that brands should consider when creating or improving their About page.
1. Put the exact name in the H1.
The main heading is one of the first elements to get right.
Barnard pointed out that many About pages use generic headings such as “My Story,” “About Me,” or “Everybody Loves Us.” Those phrases may fit the desired design or brand personality, but they do not explicitly identify who the page is about.
His recommendation is to include the person’s or company’s exact name in the page’s H1 heading. An individual might use “About James Dooley” or “James Dooley: Entrepreneur and Lead Generation Expert,” for example.
Brands do not necessarily have to abandon their preferred visual design. Barnard suggested that a page can retain a large, stylistic heading such as “My Story” while placing a properly structured H1 elsewhere on the page.
The key is to ensure that the page’s underlying structure identifies the brand clearly.
2. Start with the present and work backward.
Barnard recommends an upside-down chronological biography: begin with the person’s current role or the company’s present activities, then work backward through the history that explains how it arrived there.
This gives readers and machines an immediate understanding of what the brand is today before introducing older details.
For an individual, that could mean starting with their current position, expertise, and principal business, followed by previous roles and relevant milestones.
For a company, it could mean establishing its current identity, services, leadership, and structure before explaining its origins.
This is not a demand to erase history. It is a way to prioritize the facts that matter most to the brand’s current identity.
3. Include identifying and compliance information.
For companies, Barnard recommends including appropriate official identifying details, such as a government registration or tax number where relevant, as well as information about compliance responsibilities.
He specifically discussed official tax identifiers and the relevant data-protection or GDPR compliance officer, depending on the jurisdiction and applicable requirements.
These details can help establish transparency and distinguish one organization from another. The exact information will depend on the business, its location, and its legal obligations, so brands should include only the details that are appropriate and accurate.
The broader principle is that an About page should make the organization’s identity as unambiguous as reasonably possible.
4. Make the page easy to understand and navigate.
A page does not need to be technically complicated to be useful to algorithms.
Barnard emphasized clear, well-structured HTML, including appropriate use of headings, tables, lists, and semantic HTML5 elements. Information should be organized so that the relationships between facts are apparent rather than buried in vague prose or elaborate design.
A useful test is whether someone unfamiliar with the brand could read the page and quickly answer the basic questions about who the brand is, what it does, and which relationships define it.
If those answers are difficult to find, the page may need clearer organization.
Schema Markup supports understanding; it does not replace it.
Schema Markup and JSON-LD are often treated as the most important technical elements of this work. Barnard’s position is more nuanced: they can help, but they are not a substitute for clear information and credible corroboration.
During the conversation, he explained that search systems and language models can extract information from well-structured page content. A thoughtfully organized HTML page can communicate the brand’s identity, roles, and relationships without requiring a complicated technical implementation from the start.
Schema Markup can then provide an additional, machine-readable representation of information already present on the page.
Barnard illustrated this with a hypothetical example. A system might analyze a clear page and supporting external sources and become reasonably confident about the brand’s identity and attributes. If structured data independently confirms the same information, that additional consistency may increase its confidence.
He used an illustrative progression from 60 percent to 80 percent confidence to explain the idea. Those figures should be understood as an analogy from the discussion, not as a universal measurement or a guaranteed outcome from adding Schema Markup.
The underlying lesson is more useful than any particular number: structured data works best when it reinforces information that is already clear, consistent, and supported by evidence.
For brands that are not technically sophisticated, this offers a practical starting point. Build an understandable page first. Organize the content properly. Establish the facts and connect them to credible sources. Add structured data where it can support that foundation.
Schema is valuable, but it cannot rescue a page that fails to explain the brand clearly.
Your About page can inform your Google Knowledge Panel.
The About page also plays an important role in Barnard’s approach to Knowledge Panels.
A Knowledge Panel is Google’s information display for certain recognized people, companies, and things. Barnard explained that he considers the About page an important reference source for the facts Google and AI systems associate with a brand.
One encouraging sign, in his view, is when the description in a Knowledge Panel reflects the information established on the brand’s own website. That suggests the source is contributing to the system’s understanding of the brand.
However, the About page should not be treated as a guarantee that a Knowledge Panel will appear or that its content will always match the page. Search systems draw on multiple sources, and their decisions remain outside a brand owner’s direct control.
The practical objective is to provide a reliable reference that makes the correct interpretation easier, not to assume that publishing a particular page will automatically produce a particular search feature.
A better About page can help human visitors, too.
Although this kind of About page is designed with algorithmic understanding in mind, Barnard’s approach does not require brands to choose between machine readability and a good user experience.
In the interview, he described working with a German client who was particularly focused on A/B testing. After implementing the new About page, the client observed a 6 percent increase in conversion rate among visitors whose website journey included that page.
That result is a client-specific example shared by Barnard, not a promise that every business will experience the same improvement.
It nevertheless illustrates why clear factual information has value beyond search. Prospective customers may want to verify a company’s background, understand who leads it, or establish whether it has the experience needed to deliver on its promises.
A page that answers those questions can help remove uncertainty at an important point in the decision-making process.
In this sense, algorithm-focused content and human-focused communication are not necessarily competing priorities. A well-designed About page can support both.
Start by making your brand easier to understand.
A factual About page is not a shortcut to guaranteed rankings, a Knowledge Panel, or AI recommendations. It is a foundation for communicating a brand’s identity with greater clarity and consistency.
Barnard’s discussion with Dooley points to a practical sequence for getting started:
- Identify your reference page. Decide which owned page will serve as the authoritative factual reference for the person or organization.
- Make the identity explicit. Use the exact name in the H1 and clearly explain what the brand does, whom it serves, and its current role or activities.
- Prioritize relevant facts. Begin with the present and include the history and relationships that help explain the brand’s current identity.
- Corroborate important claims. Link factual statements to relevant, credible sources that support them.
- Improve the page structure. Organize the content with clear headings, lists, tables where appropriate, and semantic HTML.
- Use Schema Markup as supporting evidence. Add structured data to reinforce accurate page content rather than treating it as a replacement for that content.
- Review consistency across the web. Check whether authoritative profiles and other relevant sources describe the brand in ways that align with the About page.
The underlying idea is simple: brands need a dependable place where their identity is clearly defined and their most important claims can be checked.
A homepage can persuade a customer to take action. An About page helps establish the facts behind that decision, and gives search engines and AI systems a clearer basis for understanding the brand.
In a digital environment where a company’s identity is assembled from information scattered across many sources, that clarity is no longer a detail to leave until later. It is part of the foundation of a well-engineered digital brand.
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Transcript: Entity Home - The Perfect Homepage for Your Personal Brand (James Dooley Interviews Jason Barnard)
[00:00:00] James Dooley: Entity Home. Lots of people speak now about the Entity Home. Obviously, Jason, you founded the term Entity Home. There’s a lot of different variations that Google and other people are calling it now. But obviously everyone I speak to, I’m always saying you need that Entity Home. You need that website. You need to make certain, that’s the kind of hub for everything of who you are.
[00:00:26] So, I’ve got a question for you. Jason, you created the Entity Home concept. It’s now used across the industry. Before we get into what it is, why did you need to invent it and what was missing?
[00:00:46] Jason Barnard: It’s a really lovely question because nothing was actually missing because most people have About Pages, but it isn’t systematic.
[00:00:55] So there were two things that I realized. Number one is not everybody has one and they have to. Number two is, if I say you’re About Page, people think, oh yeah, I’ve gotta talk to my audience. And so you have our vision of the world. We help the world become a better place. The AI and Google can’t make sense of that. It’s your mission statement. It’s the stuff you’re trying to charm human beings with. So the Entity Home becomes this foundational algorithm-focused explanation of who you are, what you do, who you serve, and why you’re credible. And it’s an absolute must have. So the concept of Entity Home was to place in front of people the obvious fact that you have to have a place online where your entity lives and where the algorithms can find you and find what you want them to say about you. And every single entity needs it. And John Mueller from Google did a video a couple of years ago, talking about the point of reconciliation. And as he explained it, basically he’s just saying, Entity Home.
[00:02:03] James Dooley: What other terms are people using that is the same concept of Entity Home? He said there, the point of reconciliation is what John Mueller said from Google. What other terms are used for the same thing? So if people listen to it and they go, all right, okay, that is an Entity Home. I heard this or I heard that. What other terms are used?
[00:02:24] Jason Barnard: About Page, very, very common. So About Page is an Entity Home by definition. Profile page is not an Entity Home. A profile page is a third party, second party, or even first party confirmation of what’s on the Entity Home, and that’s really important. Entity Home equals About Page. Other pages are profile pages.
[00:02:48] James Dooley: So let me get you on that. So if I’ve got jamesdooley.com, and I’ve got content on the homepage. And then I’ve got jamesdooley.com/about or About James Dooley. What’s the difference like? Is my jamesdooley.com/about my Entity Home? Is that what the Entity Home is?
[00:03:12] Jason Barnard: You need to define which one it is. Now, with companies, this happens a lot that they have a website slash about and then they have the page that’s for human where they talk about their mission statement. And then slash about slash company, and they give the factual information to the machines. And we’ll talk about the exact structure of the perfect Entity Home afterwards.
[00:03:34] So you can have it as slash about slash company, slash about slash person. Or you can have it as About, slash about. So for a company, you would tend to have that deeper structure. And for a person you would tend to have just slash about because the homepage already serves the purpose of your mission statement.
[00:03:53] James Dooley: Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:03:54] Jason Barnard: Another term that people use is the canonical URL or the entity canonical URL.
[00:04:01] James Dooley: Right, so what’s the difference on the content from jamesdooley.com, jamesdooley.com/about? I’m presuming you’re gonna say one’s quite factual and the other one is still showing yourself off or something. But what does people need to understand on that Entity Home? What differentiators do you need to put on the About page and on the homepage?
[00:04:24] Jason Barnard: Yeah. Well, I mean, the homepage is all about your brand as is perceived by humans. So it’s human facing. So you need to tell your human audience what they need to know to feel that they want to engage with you, get closer to you, whatever you want them to do.
[00:04:40] The about page, the entity homepage is dedicated to educate the machines. But if you’re smart, you write it so it educates the machines and reassures the person. Although on my homepage, I might say, I serve entrepreneurs to make millions of dollars from their personal brand by leveraging it in Google and AI.
[00:05:03] On my About Page, I can say I own Kalicube®. My companies have got a combined 64 years in existence of profitability. And I can start to get them to trust me and I can give them the backstory. I wouldn’t put that on the homepage. So the About Page can be very useful for human beings. And I’ve got a German client, this is not to do with personal brands, but corporate brands. A German client. We are working on his personal brand and his corporate brand, which we often do. We will work on both the corporate and the personal brand. We talked about in another episode, a rising tide lifts all ships. Our clients will come to us and say, can you work on these multiple brands? In fact, you’ve done that so that we can pull them all up together.
[00:05:48] He’s obsessed by AB testing. We implemented the perfect Entity Home for him, and the conversion rate for people who saw the Entity Home at some point in their journey on the website, the conversion rate went up by 6%. That’s a huge win.
[00:06:15] James Dooley: Yeah. It’s massive. So what’s the difference then between a normal homepage and an Entity Home?
[00:06:23] Jason Barnard: A normal homepage is, as I said, it’s the human facing first page that people see. And it’s gonna present your business or yourself to your audience in a way that’s going to engage them. It isn’t factual. It’s designed to sell and to charm human beings.
[00:06:43] James Dooley: And in regards to the Entity Home, what does this page teach the algorithms?
[00:06:48] Jason Barnard: It teaches them the facts.
[00:06:50] James Dooley: Just all the facts and stuff like that. So you talk there about corroboration. What needs to corroborate what?
[00:07:01] Jason Barnard: You need to corroborate every single statement you make that is aimed at educating the algorithms about you. So if I say I own Kalicube®, for me, in my mind, it’s so obvious. I don’t need to corroborate or prove it.
[00:07:18] But for the algorithms, I definitely do. So I need to then make the statement on my Entity Home. And I then need to link out to the proof, and that can be a government website that says Kalicube® CEO, and Founder is Jason Barnard. It can be Crunchbase, it can be my own LinkedIn profile. It can be an article, it can be a podcast episode. If you now say, Jason Barnard, CEO, and founder of Kalicube®, that is the third-party proof because you as a human being know that I’m the CEO and founder. And I can use this as corroboration, as proof of the claim that I am the CEO, founder of Kalicube®.
[00:07:56] James Dooley: And with regards to Entity Homes, how can you connect an Entity Home to other peers and profiles and people?
[00:08:07] Jason Barnard: Right. That’s a really kind of in interesting question because it’s quite intricate. Because once again, we come back to what are the relationships that you have that are important. And you need to focus on those relationships within your Entity Home.
[00:08:33] So once again, I’ll talk about Kalicube®. I’ll talk about Up To Ten, my previous company. I’ll talk about WTPL Music, my previous company, but I won’t talk about the music band I was in in the nineties, or the TV series I made in the two thousands because it doesn’t serve my current purpose. But what I do need to do is state clearly the relationships that make sense to me today that serve my needs today. And I need to focus on the close, strong, and long relationships.
[00:09:02] James Dooley: And then with regards to the relationship of the Entity Home. What is the relationship to the Entity Home and the Knowledge Panel?
[00:09:13] Jason Barnard: It’s the source of reference for knowledge for Google and indeed for the AI. And you will find that when the description in your Knowledge Panel comes from your own Entity Home, that’s when you can feel really comfortable that you’ve done a great job. And it’s the hardest thing to do.
[00:09:31] James Dooley: If anyone wants to redesign their Entity Home, what’s one thing that you’ll be saying that they must include?
[00:09:40] Jason Barnard: The third thing I would say is always start at the present and work your way backwards. So it’s an upside down chronological biography. If you’re a company, you must add your official government tax number. Because that’s identifiable. I would add my GDPR compliance officer or whatever laws apply in your country. That’s all about transparency and trust. And it’s something that companies miss.
[00:10:08] As an individual, and this is nuts. The title, the H1, is the single most important thing on that page. And the number of times we have clients who come to us and it says about me, my story. And for companies, everybody loves us. You have to say the name of the Entity in the H1, it’s non-negotiable.
[00:10:35] James Dooley: Would you say the H1 just needs to be about James Dooley? Is that it? Or would you add any extra to that H1?
[00:10:44] Jason Barnard: You could have About James Dooley, lead gen expert entrepreneur. That’s fine too.
[00:10:51] James Dooley: So you could add the bits to go with it.
[00:10:54] Jason Barnard: And there is a neat trick if a client really wants to have my story in big at the top, take a step back and think, actually that’s just design. The biggest text on the page doesn’t have to be the H1. So you can do a design class and have my story in really big letters at the top, and then the H1 much smaller underneath, which is the practical one that educates the machine.
[00:11:20] James Dooley: And I’ve got one last question with regards to the Entity Home because now everyone’s starting talking about it and the importance of the Entity Home. And they all believe that the most important part is Schema. And it’s you that told me recently that JSON-LD and Schema is not the most important part, that you believe that that’s just reassuring what’s already on the page. Can you expand upon that a little bit more?
[00:11:46] Jason Barnard: Yeah. Schema markup is helpful. But it isn’t the magic bullet that most people think it is. If you talk to Jarno van Driel, who is absolute expert on Schema Markup, who talks to the people at Google, talks to the people at Bing about Schema Markup. He’s in the Schema Markup community. He’s contributed in enormous amounts of Schema Markup. They all agree it’s supporting evidence. It’s bringing together what’s already in the page in a machine-readable format or a native machine-readable format. And if you look at it that way, it becomes more powerful.
[00:12:22] And I talked to you the other day. I’ve had multiple clients who really don’t want to get geeky. And I’ve done a consultancy session with them and they said, I don’t want the Schema Markup because it’s too geeky. I’m gonna get it wrong, and I’m not interested. I just tell them how to build a beautiful, clear HTML page that’s incredibly well structured using tables, lists, Semantic HTML5 correctly. And they get a Knowledge Panel and there’s no problem. They don’t need the Schema Markup. But the Schema Markup definitely helps. And I’ll give you a little illustration of that.
[00:12:57] If you imagine the bot comes in, analyzes your page. It says, I think this page is about James Dooley. I think he’s an entrepreneur. I think that he founded this company. I think that the description I should use is this. I think that he was born in this year, so on and so forth. I am 60% confident because he’s written a great HTML page and because other resources around the web that I can refer to, confirm it. Add the Schema Markup. It will look at it as a comparison. It will say, well, that confirms it. I am now 80% confident.
[00:13:33] So the Schema Markup is about confidence in the understanding of the information that’s in the webpage, not in understanding itself. I talked to Fabrice Canel, who’s the Principal Program Manager at Bing, who built Bing bot, and he said our LLMs and small language models for that matter, can extract information much more reliably than the Schema Markup we’re seeing.
[00:13:55] Schema Markup is simply a confirmation that our machines have correctly understood and it builds confidence.
[00:14:03] James Dooley: Yeah, for sure. So anyone who’s watching this, the importance of Entity Home is huge. If you are looking for branding, SEO, or Entity SEO, if you’re looking to get a KGMID, it acts as the hub.
[00:14:18] It’s something obviously I’ve learned from you. You’ve been doing it since 2015, Jason, in doing Knowledge Graphs and stuff like that. So huge thank you for introducing the concept of the Entity Home.
[00:14:32] Jason Barnard: Thank you very much.
